Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
Yes. We’re going to, yes. Yes. We are talking today about doing and feeling your movement. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Doing versus feeling. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
Or feeling. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
And feeling. Cause you’re either doing it or you’re feeling it and doing it well, 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
You should feel it while you do it. 

The difference between feeling versus doing

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
You should. And we’re done. There you go. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
I guess, tissue talk on the face. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Perfect. Okay. So today it’s a weird topic. I know it’s kind of unusual for us, but I want to explain the difference between feeling versus doing. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
Right the heart of what we’ve been talking about for just about. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Everything it is. It’s really what defines us. It’s really what we’re all about and what we really believe. 

Everybody really needs to understand about their own bodies in order to really make humongous changes in how and, and almost permanent changes in how they go back out their movement. Okay. 

The feeling is the difference between doing versus feeling, and you can do these all day because you’re doing and feeling when you’re doing them. 

So movement, what is movement? Movement is defined as changing positions or locations. Right? Pretty simple. When it comes to the body, it’s relatively subconscious. 

We go through world and through life moving, but we’re not consciously like thinking about every time we move, every time I do this, I’m not like, and then I’m going to reach out and I’m going to push Mike and he’s going to turn his head and we don’t do a lot of that. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
It’s very subconscious. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
I think you do that quite a bit. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
One word. Okay. 

Let’s say just because it’s easy and everybody can understand it. You want to see what time it is. Okay. And let’s say we’re wearing a watch. 

So Mike looks at his watch. He goes to look at his watch, so what we think happens is we bend or flex the elbow. Check out the time on the wrist.

Right? Cause that’s what happens. Bending the elbow pronation of the forearm. Time comes up where I look at. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
It, you should have. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Too bad, but however, it may look easy on the surface, right? Because it’s just one motion. 

However, underneath that skin of ours in the muscles and the tendons and the nerves and the ligaments, there’s so many complexities going on and it, there’s every kind of sensory moving back and forth in order to make that happen. 

Right? The body is a super highway of muscles, nerves, arteries, ligaments, tendons, like we just said, and they all are working at hyper speed to make that happen so that we can move easily throughout the earth. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
Another example of that is the soccer mom car, a quick stop while you’re driving in the car. 

As soon as you come to quick, stop the soccer mom, kind of any mom, anybody that arm goes across and acts like a seatbelt for the child or adult has happened to be sitting there at the time. 

That arm is going to stop that human being from flying out that window. Right. Which could probably actually happen in truth. But that’s that super reflex. 

You have to stop and think about every motion you’d have to do in order to get that done. A kid where I’d be out the window. 

What Is The Peripheral Nervous System? 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Yeah. So how does this work? Right. First of all, you have your peripheral nervous system. 

That is the nervous system that goes out to the arms and legs, right? All the periphery, but P N S is what it gets to be known as it sends a message to your central nervous system, which is that beautiful brain that we have up in there and the spinal cord, right. 

Where all of the nerves come out of, and it sends a message to the P N S that it wants to flex the elbow. Mike does this, he’s looking at the time. Before that, the brain is like the, the body’s like, I want to flex the elbow. 

And the brain’s like, all right. The brain holds like a super zoom meeting, right. With all of the sensory mechanical receptors. This is like the, body’s a group of nosy neighbors that are in everybody’s business. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Right. We have receptors for bending, stretching, flexing, pain, overstretching, it’s our watchdog. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
Grill and where you are in space at any given moment. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Right. Right. Constantly when we’re doing things, it’s like, send it up, send it back down, send it up, send it back down. He, well, the hair, I mean, let’s not get crazy. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC

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Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Wasn’t a good day for him. Isn’t it? So, so we have this little zoom meeting, right? 

The brain’s like, Hey guys, what are you saying? He wants to move it. What do you think? Or you think he’s going to stretch it? Is it going to break it? Is it going to stretch too much? There going to be pain associated with it? Okay. No. All right. Do it.

It sends it back down to the arm and then boom, there we go. It’s I mean, it’s just like Houston, we have lift off and they’re. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Instantaneous guys. It happens that fast because we’re constantly moving, bending, shorting, and stretching and doing everything because this is what we do is we move right. 

We’ve involved the way around, especially when we’re doing tissue talk live. Our bodies are amazing, basically in a nutshell is what I’m saying. I am completely in a nutshell right now. 

It’s not until the doing shuts down and doesn’t work that we really understand and notice that there’s a problem with what’s happening. Right. 

Because we’re just like moving through the earth, we’re doing. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
What we’ve been taken for granted. Now it comes right to the forefront of what’s wrong. Right. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC

So, that’s where we’re going to start today is the difference between just going along and doing it and then having to feel it, to activate it, to get it back together. 

It sounds crazy, but it’s really not that bad. It’s actually really important for what we do. Okay. Let’s say Mike still wants to look at his watch. Right? 

However, the same arm that’s holding that watch is holding like 16 bags of groceries. Cause we just went to the grocery store and we’re not doing two trips. 

I’m care what you say. I’m not doing two trips. I can hold all this by myself so he can do. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
This challenge. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Except right. He’s got, he’s got a, his diet, ginger ale has his Stouffer’s lean cuisine, his like Chubb, peanut butter, M and M’s cause you’re in a little room. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
Pumpkin. So your. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Arms loaded down with like 225 pounds of stuff. Right. He’s got his arm saying like this. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
Now it’s all in one hand. Cause I got to keep the other hand free for the keys or I got my cell phone. Right. You gotta be looking at that. So all here, constricting down. Go ahead. Yeah. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
He’s like, oh, I wonder what time it is. Cause Mike tends to think about that as soon as he’s lifting it up. 

Now he’s lifting it up to his head and then boom pain in the shoulder, pain in the neck, pain coming down on the shoulder and running all over. It’s like, what happens? All I did was look at my eyes, look at my watch. 

Right? That’s all I wanted to do was see the time. Now your body’s watchdog group, those nosy neighbors, they have alerted the nociceptors, which are your pain police. And they’re onto something. 

Nociceptors: sensory receptors in the body that read signals from damaged tissue or even the threat of damage

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
When it shouldn’t have moved. Right. Something is not right in there. Now there’s a strain in the shoulder. 

There’s a strain in the muscle tendon. There could be a sprain in the ligament. Like there could be a lot of stuff going on for sure. There’s something in the muscle going on because the reason why you moved it, something’s not right. 

Now what do we do when you are down for the count? Right? You still have 225 pounds of groceries on your arms. Now you got to figure out how to put that down without really jacking yourself up and potentially getting to the house. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
Time that bag has been now all the sense, several bags now cutting into like that, where that tourniquet right through my arms, nearly coming through the bone at this point. Right? 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
So, so now, because you’re in so much pain, the pain police were like, stop that. We put the hole on that. 

The central nervous system, that little brain and spinal cord that’s up here underneath all this hair. It basically puts a halt and on everything, it’s like no permission to move. You cannot move, pain is on the horizon. Right? 

The central nervous system is shutting these muscles off. The peripheral nervous system, the PNS where they reside has to make do with a lot of limited movements. 

So now he’s like, oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God, what do I do? Right. He’s just like, all I don’t want me to do is look at my watch. And now I can’t move my arm. 

This is no bueno. Right? Exactly. So, normally when this happens, we tend to like do nothing and then hope it passes. 

Pain Is A Warning

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Sometimes you get to go to the doctor if this is okay and it hasn’t gotten anything really bad. 

We go back to the whole idea of the pain thing again. Right. Because that’s our first thought is like, I just tore everything in my entire shoulder and now I’m going to have surgery. 

That’s not necessarily so pain is there to stop the movement and put a halt on the process so we can really figure out what’s going on. All the muscles are now going like those. We have a whole health on the process. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
Right now. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
So, so what do you do? Do you, wait, you wait that you give it, I’m going to give it three days and that’s it. Or I’m just going to give it an hour and it’s going to be fine. We start doing that whole like, 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
We start doing that whole conversation that we have in our own mind of like what we’re doing, what we’re not doing. 

You’re like, eh, it’ll be fine in an hour. I just can’t really move it. It’ll be okay. I’ll just take some ice or I’ll sit on it. We’re good. We’re good. Now what’s happening because you have that pain of movement. 

Now, your body’s starting to create a whole new pain pattern that’s going on. Now he can’t actually move his arm right now because of the pain. Now he’s like trying to move his elbow. 

His shoulder now becomes like the main mover up here. Because he can’t do this, he’s doing this. 

Now all of the muscles in the upper trap and the upper part of the back and the upper shoulder are contracted. Now the brain’s like, oh, I guess that’s how we move now. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Right? Because he’s only doing this. This is all he can do because this part is killing him. 

This part is not working. This part is overworking because it’s holding everything in. We got biceps that are working too hard, but triceps that are just overstretched the upper trap, that’s like, and then paint up the neck pain down the back. 

The body’s like, I guess this is the new, the new normal. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
Way we’re going to be now. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Right? It started to create a new pattern of movement that happens all the time. Guys can be the simplest of things that happens. Right? 

Instead of that, grace and ease of elbow, flexion and pronation like this, it’s now like, Ooh. Now you’re going to get the lean in order to see it because the body can’t do it on its own. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC

The Brain and The Central Nervous System

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Good. You’re going to have to look at a clock. I know it’s crazy. The body actually goes back to the central nervous system and it’s like, can we, repattern this re pattern in the brain? 

The brain is like, okay, I’ve got a new pattern going on, hold on. It creates this whole new software code and it puts it back down in there so that we have now a new routing system over which way to go. 

Instead of this, it’s here and that’s really how pain works, right? So it gets the job done. It’s not pretty, it’s semi effective, but it’s gonna figure it out because your body is meant to move. And that’s really what has to happen. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
You want to go back to the gym. Now you have this new movement pattern, and now you’re gonna start lifting weights again or do something else. 

You’re going to do some thing where you have to do with resistance in a proper pattern, right? This is where more damage. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Well, not, well, not only that, but now you’ve had this for like three or four days. You’re like, okay, this is sucking hard. 

This is not, I, it was a stupid grocery bag. Like, all I was doing was taking groceries in, like, I didn’t do anything. Like I didn’t do anything. Right. Because we’re now limited on this side. 

You’re so frustrated because your body’s just not working for you and it’s working, but it’s just not doing it. 

So here is the deal, right? Doing versus feeling your body is made up of dominant and dormant muscle patterns. That means some of them are working really hard for you. 

Some of them just don’t work enough because we have, we’re putting a lot of attention into certain areas and not enough attention into the other areas. Right. Remember what is my saying? 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
Talk don’t cook rice. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
No, it is my saying, but that is not the one that we’re talking about. Talk, don’t cook rice though. It’s true. 

Energy flows where the attention goes and the brain is the attention in Mike’s case would be right in this area because he can’t do everything with this because he has destroyed it, carrying all the groceries. 

Right. If you think of your body as a sports team and you have first string, second string, third string bench, sitters, like you have your first stringers that get used a lot. 

You have your second sugars that are really, really good, but they don’t get the attention that they, the first string does. 

They just are kind of sitting here in the backup and then you have your bench team that doesn’t get used at all. They’re just sitting there cold as ice and not fit, not. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
Warming up. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Now suddenly because of injury, the bed, the first string gets pulled out. That, that second string is like, okay. 

The third string and the bench guys are like, you’re in. And they’re just like, wait, 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
What is your chance guys? They’re. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Cold. They have there been eaten a burger of the whole entire time. They haven’t warmed up there. 

They’re just there. That’s just what it is. Right? All of a sudden they’re like, and they jump in and then they can’t do the job because they haven’t been able to feel what it feels like to actually be in the game yet. 

So what’s your, body’s doing. Your body has these patterns of overused, overused way under use, overuse, not being used at all. 

Now it’s asking to be used way too much, make sense guys, instead of where your body is being used efficiently all the way around, and you can actually feel the difference. 

You’ve lost the ability to actually feel how do use these back here. They’re not effective or efficient, if that makes sense. Okay. So back to the body, 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
It’s an amnesia that happens for the brain connections to those muscles. It still has a connection, but it’s forgotten where it is, 

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Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Right? Exactly. It. So the difference between doing is feeling. Now let’s say you go, you’re frustrated. 

You go to therapy, you go to your whomever. You go to right. To get help. They say, here’s, I need you to do three sets of 10 of these. You’re like, all right, I’ll do them. And you’re doing these like, like this. 

You’re like, well, I’m doing them because we’re taskers. Right. Human beings. They want to get it done. They want to be, they want to be, they want to do the right thing. They want to get the attaboys like good job. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC

The Brain Can Repattern Movements

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Done. And so he’s like, I got it. Watch me, watch me. I can do this. Watch me. And yet, is it right? 

Not really because he’s doing it, but he’s actually overdoing the same area that he’s got way too much attention going to anyway. 

Instead of being able to really connect with the body, when we talk about doing versus feeling doing is disconnection and letting the body just do what it naturally does. 

Right. Because it has that normal pattern. When the body has figured out that it doesn’t know what it doesn’t know. Right. It’s like that discovery of that aha moment of like, I w how am I, why am I always raising the shoulder? 

Like what is this? All of a sudden that aha moment comes your brain is like, oh, wait, there’s another pattern that was going on there. It’ll start to relocate back into the, where it was because you weren’t born that way. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
I mean, some people may be, but the majority of us were not born that way. Right?

It’s, you’ve got your hardware and your software and the hardware was built correctly. 

Somewhere along the line, the software got a virus and it changed the pattern of everything via injury, via overused, via those damn grocery. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
Bags. Right. Simple as possible. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
So, so what we mean is when you’re doing your exercises, it’s hard for you to do things that you don’t even realize that you’re not doing. 

What we need to do is we need to remind ourselves that if I’m raising my arm, there are the shoulder actually raises completely separately of that, of elevation happening. 

You shouldn’t be bringing your shoulder to your ear. You should be able to use your deltoid muscles instead of just your upper trap muscles to do the work. How easy is that? 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
Well, it can be very difficult if you don’t know that you’re not doing it. Right. Even bringing it back into the conscious can be of a road. Right. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Here’s the thing, guys, once you realize that you aren’t doing that movement correctly, or you’re not really feeling it, we have clients all the time that when we tell them, they’re like, but I, this is what I’ve been doing. 

If they try to hustle or they try to move faster than it needs to be. Your body will go by our back to the way it knows, because it’s your comfort zone, right? 

If I’m used to doing this all the time to get me to do this is going to be a really big challenge for me to re learn, but will it happen quickly? Yes. 

If you connect with it, if you connect with it, what you’re doing then is remember the watchdog group, you’re basically taking this and you’re sending the signal back down to here. 

Like, no, we want you to do this and use all the fibers. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Like it’s really changing the, the conversation instead of like the move fast. It’s like, no, go slow and actually use all of these. 

You’re using all of these, you’re not just turning on muscles that have been turned off for awhile, but you’re also re establishing the body’s connection with itself and the brain, which we’re usually very disconnected because we just roll through the earth. Right. 

We just assume that the body is supposed to do things naturally on its own. It doesn’t work that way. It doesn’t work that way. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
Oh, what was, I was the, one of the big things that we train is exactly. This is that we’ll get somebody we’ll work the hell out of them for a good 45 minutes or so. 

Get them into that fatigue state that does that spot. Where now they’re just going back into tasking where they could come become unconscious again. 

We slow them down and make them work now in fatigue and get that proper pattern. Cause it will go right back to that bad pattern or the improper pattern in that fatigue or in that stress state. Yeah. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
If you’ve had this for a long time, this isn’t something that you guys are going to necessarily have an eye for to see on your own, you’re going to have a trained eye or somebody who has an understanding of a different body patterns, movement, postural body mechanics, gait training, to see what isn’t working and where the dysfunction is so that they can start to change it. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
Because I mean, the true, amazing thing is somebody who I think I have a decent understanding of where it should be when I’m working and I can, but I’ve been in that state where I’m tired, fatigue and someone’s come out and looked at my form. 

And I think I’m nailing it. She’s like you aren’t nailing it at all. It’s way off. It was like, oh, and I realized I’m not even close to. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
What I. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
Thought I was there. I had an idea of where I should have been, but I wasn’t there yet. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Well, look, I was a professional volleyball player and I thought I had, I did, my vertical was decent. I will say at points, but I thought I had this amazing jump. 

I swear, I was like, the worn down credit card is like, that was about as high as I was getting. I thought I was like, Ooh, I was sailing off the floor because proprioception is an amazing thing where we have this idea that we’re doing things better. 

It’s like the person that you’re seeing that you see. 

Speaker 3
Standing like this all the time here, this little, the little old man or whomever. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Yeah. That’s teenagers. They’re rounded if you ask them, they’re sitting up. Right. Because they don’t know anything different because it hasn’t been exposed to them. 

Like the discovery isn’t there. If you don’t know what you don’t know. The here’s the bottom line for this. 

You guys is get into your body. You get to connect with your body. You get to feel your parts actually doing the movement. The shoulder gets to move back via the shoulder blade, the scapula move. 

The, that create the movement in the shoulder, move the muscles that create eight, the movement into the arm, into the joint. Don’t be so caught up in just doing the movement because the pattern will still be there. 

Once somebody has addressed it with you and expose that discovery right of the dysfunction, then the biggest way that you can change it. Let me just say how powerful human beings are. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
We are powerful. The brain is we’re not even using the brain as much as it needs to be used. Not even close guys, the minute that you guys see that you can feel something move. 

We’ve had people who, for years, can’t do certain things. All of a sudden they’re just like, oh my God, I feel that because it’s the connection happens because we are energetic beings. 

We’re full of energy. That’s what creates us. That’s what drives us energy. Sensory receptors, cells, atoms like we’re alive for a reason. The minute we can actually slow down and start feeling, what’s moving. 

I E pulling the belly button in, pulling the shoulder back in down when I’m raising my arm, instead of letting my shoulder drive up into my show, my ear, they excuse me. 

What we can do is we can change the pattern fast, only. You can fix you and you are inside of you. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
We’re not. So, so the funny thing is I can tell you all day long, do this, do that. You have somebody who’s telling you, squeeze your button. 

You’re like, I am squeezing my butt. Pull your shoulder down. I am to pulling my shoulder down. It’s not doing it through here. Through here, we, you can’t think your way out of an injury. 

You can’t, it’s impossible. 

You have to feel the body in how it moves. That’s the connection that most people are missing. 

They do the do, instead of the feel is somatic it’s inside the body. 

It’s the body’s response internally to something changing. Instead of trying to make it happen out here, where we’re using external forces to make it happen, like I E machines or different straps or braces or bands even you can’t use bands to make things happen. 

If you don’t feel where it’s happening from, it’s not gonna have the same effect. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
I promise you it won’t. You may think about it for a moment, but it won’t have the long lasting effect because until you can actually feel how your body feels when it’s moving, that’s when change actually occurred, 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
Which I think you’re also saying, I know you’re also saying is that whoever it is out there is listening to this needs to do this all day. 

Not just when you’re working out, not just when you’re at the gym or with your PT or your therapist or whatever you’re doing. It’s all every minute of a waking hour of the day. 

You’re constantly doing slight corrections all day long, 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
All day, all day. And you are that powerful. You are, you really can change your body. It is not too late. It is not. 

You are not beyond that. Majority of us are not. There comes a point where you can be, but you are not. 

If you, the more you understand your body and how it moves and the power behind it, you can do anything, your power, your, you are limitless in your possibility. 

I, and I only say that because it starts with feeling instead of doing. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
Only you can limit you. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Yeah. Good job. Well done. Yeah. Yeah. Only you can limit you and only you can fix you because as much as we want to, we can just point out what the dysfunction is. 

It’s up to you to decide if that’s where you want to be. I really hope that you guys got something out of this really important, like, think about, think I want you to get, take it from here and put it in here. 

I want you to really understand and feel what it feels like even to do the smallest things, like take your fingers and just feel the muscles close your eyes and take that sense away so that your body feels it’s going through in movement. 

I promise you, it is the most empowering thing. You’ll be able to do so much more than you ever thought possible. The next time you actually go to the grocery store and you’re carrying six Agilon bags, because you’re going to do it again. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
You think about, oh, I should pull my shoulder down and back and hold myself. I can actually do this instead of this. And it’ll change the game for you. 

Mike Julian LMT, CAMTC
These are amazing structures. If given the opportunity to do what they’re designed to do. 

Julie Pitois LMT, CAMTC
Absolutely 100%, all right, you guys, I hope you enjoyed it. We will be back next Wednesday with our half of the body. 

If anybody who needs to feel versus do or do versus feel or get out of their head and get into their body, connect with us, share this video, share it with everybody. We would love for you to share it. 

Sharing is caring way to care. Anyway, have a great one. We’ll see you next week. Bye.